Wednesday 24 February 2016

Assassin Katar vs Dual-Dagger

While playing on DoM, lot of people asked me if they should go for a Katar or DD Sin for farming. I wanted to make a post which clearly states the differences between them and also enlightens about different builds for these weapons.


Katar Assassin

Katar is the bread-n-butter build for Assassins. Assassins get double crit rate when wielding Katar and building a critical assassin sounds logical. There are two types of Critcal builds i.e. Natural crit(uses Luk for crit and damage modifiers for weapons) and Equip Crit(uses Triple Critical Jur). Here are the pros and cons of this build:

Pros:
  • Very good critical rate combined with nice aspd from Katar Weapons.
  • Very efficient in certain maps like High Orcs and Turtle Dungeon.
  • Nat-Crit Assassins have very good DPS and can take down some very tough mobs like Wanderer and Abysmal Knights with ease.
  • People rarely play Nat-Crit. your friends will be quite surprised when they see such high numbers and crit rate.
Cons:
  • 3x Soldier Skeleton cards are required for Equip-Crit Assassins.
  • Nat-Crit Assassin is not really worth unless you have Rogues Treasure available on your server.
  • Crit Assassins require endow/elemental Katars to reach their highest potential.
  • Nat-Crit Assassin requires many cards which might take a while since people don't hunt them. (Dullahan, Goblin-Archer, Cruiser)

Dual-Dagger Assassin

When RO came out, absolutely nobody went for Dual-Dagger. Everyone just assumed that Katar was the best weapon and chose between Nat-Crit and Equip Crit. After 1-2 years few people tried Dual Dagger with Racial Cards and Elemental Daggers and were shocked with its DPS. Here are the Pros and Cons:

Pros:
  • Very good DPS when well-geared.
  • It is easier to forge elemental Daggers compared to hunting elemental Katars.
  • Does not need any Endow/Sage.
  • Removes the necessity for Dual-Clienting.
  • Works best on low-def monsters. Most of the monsters in RO have low-medium def and makes it more viable to use Dual-Daggers.
  • Can outclass Katar Assassin if combined with Ice-Pick, Combat Knife and Exorciser.
Cons:
  • Needs a heavy investment on elemental Damascus.
  • Needs a lot of cards i.e 2xracials, 2xsize/element.
  • Not every monster is the same and hence you cannot have perfect daggers for all the monsters.
  • Slow aspd with high numbers.(not sure if its a con)
  • Ice-pick, Exorciser are very end-game weapons.

Katar w/ Sidewinder

This is a very unique build and many people are not aware of it. Using a Side-Winder card on a Katar lets you use lvl 10 Double Attack on Katar type weapons. This is a hybrid between Dagger and Katars and lets you use the goodness from both worlds.

Pros:
  • High Aspd from Katar with Double-Attack.
  • Very beginner friendly.
  • Sidewinder card is very easy to get and assassins are the one of the best classes to farm it.
  • Very enjoyable since you do not have to worry about card farming.
Cons:
  • Although you can increase the damage by racial cards and Ele-Katars, it has a cap to its DPS.
  • Loses out to High-Geared Nat Crit and Dual-Dagger Assassins.



Stat Build

To display the kill-time between each type of Assassin I will be using the following stat build:

Standard Assassin:

Assassin 91/50

Str: 94+6
Agi: 80+10
Vit: 1+2
Int: 1
Dex: 32+8
Luk: 1+0

Self-Buffs: Awakening Potion
Other Buffs: None


Equip Crit:

Assassin 92/50

Str: 94+6
Agi: 80+10
Vit: 1+2
Int: 1
Dex: 12+8
Luk: 30+0

Self-Buffs: Awakening Potion
Other Buffs: None

Nat-Crit(High End):

Assassin 96/50

Str: 94+6
Agi: 90+10
Vit: 1+2
Int: 1
Dex: 1+8
Luk: 30+0

Self-Buffs: Awakening Potion
Other Buffs: None

Equipment Build

I have divided the equipment build into 3 tiers and each tier has different equipment sets. All these build use undershirt and pantie combo.

Low-Tier Builds:
  • Dual-Dagger Assassin:
    Right-Hand: +5 Damascus
    Left-Hand: Damascus
  • Katar-Assassin:
    Weapon: +5 Jamadhar
  • Katar w/ Sidewinder:
    Weapon: +6 Jur [1xSidewinder Card]

Mid-Tier Builds:
  • Dual-Dagger Assassin:
    Right-Hand: +5 Elemental Damascus (not VVS)
    Left-Hand: Damascus
  • Equip-Crit Assassin:
    Weapon: +6 Jur [3x Soldier Skeleton]
    Accessory: 2x Clip [Kobold]
  • Nat-Crit Assassin:
    Weapon: +7 Jur [3x (+7crit, 10% crit damage cards)]
    Accessory: 2x Clip [Kobold]
  • Katar w/ Sidewinder
    Weapon: +6 Jur [2x Racial, 1x Side-Winder]

High-Tier Builds:
  • Dual Dagger Assassin:
    Right-Hand: +5 VVS Elemental Damascus
    Left-Hand: Main-Gauche [2x Racial, 2x Elemental]
  • Nat-Crit Assassin:
    Weapon: +7 Jur [3x (+7crit, 10% crit damage cards)]
    Accessory: 2x Rogue Treasure


Kill Time

I have used Wushuang Calculator to compare each builds.


Type
Alice
Alligator
Angeling
Apocalypse
Argiope
Bathory
Clock
DragonTail
Dryad
Goat
High-Orc
Knocker
Myst-Case
Pasana
Raydric
Seal
Siroma
Solider
Wanderer




















Dual-Dagger
15.2
9.67
62.19
~
8.29
6.9
20.03
14.51
15.89
38.69
12.43
13.81
4.83
20.3
21.42
13.81
9.67
91.21
~
Katar
16.32
9.69
65.79
325.38
8.16
7.65
21.42
15.81
16.32
34.17
12.24
15.81
4.59
19.89
19.89
14.28
11.22
52.02
216.75
Sidewinder
10.84
6.9
46.83
205.58
5.91
4.93
14.29
10.35
10.84
24.15
8.87
11.33
3.45
13.8
14.29
10.35
8.38
40.42
144.44




















Dual-Dagger
15.2
5.52
31.09
~
8.29
5.52
11.74
8.29
8.29
19.34
6.9
8.98
4.83
11.74
14.51
8.29
4.83
52.51
~
Equip-Crit
14.25
8.44
69.16
38.01
6.33
6.86
14.78
11.08
11.61
14.78
9.5
11.08
4.22
11.08
12.14
11.61
8.97
18.48
12.67
Equip-Crit(Endow)

5.28
34.84


5.28
8.44
6.33
5.8
7.39
5.28
7.39

6.33
7.92
6.86
4.75
10.56
8.44
Sidewinder
7.88
4.93
33.52
146.42
4.43
3.45
10.35
7.39
7.88
17.25
6.4
7.88
2.46
9.86
10.35
7.39
5.91
29.08
103.53
Sidewinder(Endow)

2.95
16.76


2.95
5.91
4.43
3.94
8.87
3.45
5.42

5.91
6.9
4.43
2.95
16.76
69.02




















Dual-Dagger
9.26
3.56
20.67
573.25
5.7
3.56
7.84
5.7
4.99
12.12
4.99
5.7
2.85
7.13
9.26
5.7
3.56
29.23
68.44
Nat-Crit
9.55
3.52
25.65
23.19
4.02
3.52
5.53
4.52
4.02
5.03
3.52
5.03
3.01
4.02
5.03
4.52
3.01
6.53
5.03


As you can see, Side-Winder and Nat-Crit produce some of the highest DPS. However, I have excluded IcePick, Combat Knife and other def ignoring daggers. If you do have access to these daggers, Dual-Dagger will certainly beat Nat-Crit.


Hopefully, I have helped you decide between the different types of Assassins. Personally, I prefer the Sidewinder build, but you could always go for the one that appeals you.


Good Luck and Have Fun

-Coco

17 comments:

  1. Thanks for the guide! Your blog's fun to read.

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  2. Since you are equipping Pantie Undershirt combo the Agi value should be 90 + 15 and not 90 + 10. I'm taking for instance your High tier build natural crit assassin, how do you produce 3.52 secs to kill Alligator? I did the same with calculator and the kill time should be 7.32 secs to kill 1 alligator.

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  3. what do you mean by 2x racial in sidewinder build?
    I really like this blog well explained. Can I ask more tips from a pro like you?

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  4. also what is a perfect build for sidewinder assasin?

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  5. is this renewal or pre-renewal ? cuz card race is sucks at renewal

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  6. what kind of race card do you recommend in the sidewinder build for farming MVPs??

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    1. Depends on the race of the mvp that you will be hunting? You can check the database first before hunting/buying that card for your weapon.

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  7. playing ragnarok ph now new official server and it's based on revo classic where low level weapon is much weaker. what do you think is the best build for revo classic ro

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  10. hello what stats build will i use if i want to be a katar sidewinder assasin? standard assasin or equip crit? ohhh and should i do job 50 on theif? thank you ^-^

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  11. Sidewinder Card [Weapon] Item ID# 4117 (Side_Winder_Card) look up sprite name
    Type Card Class Weapon Card Buy 20z Sell 10z Weight 1
    Pre/Suffix Hybrid
    Description Causes Double Attack by 5% chance.
    If character has learned Double Attack, this card won't take effect.
    Item Script
    { skill "TF_DOUBLE",1; bonus bDoubleRate,5; },{},{}
    Dropped By
    Side Winder
    (0.01%)
    Obtainable From Old Card Album

    if u have learnt double attack its gonna be useless to assasin? am i right? pls enlighten me

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  12. does snakeheadhat proc with dualdag?

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  14. dualdag procs the level of your DA (if you put skill points on it). DA only procs on the right hand weapon.

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